Get the right Apostille

An Apostille is basically an addition to a notarized (or officially issued) document – to make the item acceptable in countries other than the country of issue. The Apostille bearing document is generally of a “personal” nature; as opposed to business documents. Personal documents include Birth, Death, Marriage, and Divorce certificates. Also considered personal are affidavits, statements of fact; created by individuals for various purposes. Business documents include, but are certainly not limited to: Statements of Incorporation, business contracts, and powers of attorney for business transactions. A personal power of attorney is generally considered a personal document. As a New York Mobile Notary Public – I process both types.

Personal documents for use outside the USA generally only require an Apostille. Business documents generally require Legalization at Consulate or Embassy. Article 12 of The Hague, regarding the international use of documents – is specifically for personal documents. That agreement among nations was intended to reduce the need for the more costly and time consuming Legalization procedure. However, often a step in the Legalization procedure is obtaining an Apostille prior to bringing the document to the Embassy or Consulate.

There are two “types” of Apostilles issued. For signatory nations to Article 12, the document issued is titled “Apostille”. For non-signatory nations; China and Canada are examples, the document issued is titled “Certification”. Both the “Apostille” and the “Certification” are loosely referred to as being an “Apostille”. They serve the same function precisely. However, the word “Apostille” at the top of the page is only intended for use in signatory nations. Signatory nations both issue and receive the “Apostille” at the top of the page. Non-signatory nations issue and receive the word “Certification” at the top of the page. It’s a minor technicality, but the proper format is necessary for acceptance by the target country of use.

Kenneth A Edelstein has obtained, over the past decade, thousands of each type. Now you understand why I must ask “What is the target country of use”. The Department of State – prior to issuing the “Apostille” asks the same question. Based on the answer, they look up the “signatory status” – and issue the appropriate format. Note that although there are two formats – each format is not tied to a specific country. An “Apostille” bearing document is acceptable in England or Italy; but not intended for use in Canada or China. The reverse is also true. A “Certification” bearing document is not intended for England or Italy; but is right for Canada or China. If you tell me the correct country of use; you may get an “Apostille”, or you may get a “Certification”. Both formats function in exactly the same manner.
 

Why you do not need me as your Mobile Notary Public

You have a sense of adventure and a longing for travel. You like to visit banks and pharmacies hunting for the elusive Notary Public. Similar to a Postal Worker, neither wind, nor rain, nor gloom of night deters you from your quest. You know they are “out there” somewhere – and feel they eagerly await your arrival and documents. You have heard stories about how selective the bank’s notaries can be; having strict instructions from their employer about what to not process. Ever confident in your personal charm, you are certain that, no matter how many or what they are; the local notary once found is certain to process your documents.

You are aware there has to be a difference in the skills of a professional, such as the service provided by Kenneth A. Edelstein compared to a part time practitioner. However, you’re feeling lucky – and have confidence that the harried bank clerk or pharmacist will do what you need – correctly. As an alternative you are considering calling your sister’s cousin’s aunt. She was a notary many years ago, and perhaps she has maintained her commission and will graciously invite you over; you do recall that she made the most wonderful chocolate chip cookies. You’re not a very private person; it really does not matter to you that your notary co-worker learns about your plans for cryogenic storage, so you can be awakened sometime in the future when your ailment can be cured.

You have lots of time on your hands. Sure, it might take you an hour or two to actually find a notary; but you really don’t have anything better to do. Some exercise walking the streets will do you a world of good and you get a chance to see the neighborhood and meet the shopkeepers. Having a high tolerance for rejection, the constant deferrals: “The notary is not in now”, “This is not the best time”, “I don’t handle that type of document”, “It’s in Bulgarian – so I can’t notarize it”; are seen as challenges to overcome.

It’s a point of pride with you to get the absolute lowest price in every transaction. You have heard that the County Clerk’s in New York State notarize for free as a public service. The time and expense of using the subway, bus or car; are to be ignored. The same applies to the metal detector’s line, and the line for notary services. You are willing to go several times as you are aware they limit the quantity per person. The goal of lowest price is irresistible – you research becoming a notary and doing it for yourself; but become dismayed when you learn that such activity is illegal. Ignoring your cell minutes, you call three dozen mobile notary services – to find a free one. Eventually you find the New York Mobile Notary Public web site and learn about the pitfalls and dangers of improper notarizations. You begin to see the light and think about the ramifications of your document being processed improperly.

“Are there any other fees or charges?” is a common question when I quote a price for my mobile notary, fingerprinting, or Apostille/Legalization services. My standard reply is “I don’t like to get or to give surprises”. It seems that some notaries are advertising in a “bait and switch” manner, adding fees and surcharges to a low starting number. I consider that deceptive. When I quote a price for services, based on your stated requirements, that’s the price – unless the requirements change. I am one of the very few A+ rated notaries with the Better Business Bureau of New York, (I know of no other). http://kenneth-a-edelstein.com is dedicated to the highest standards of ethics and I maintain a very pro-consumer business policy.

Some are very creative with the “add ons”. I receive regular feedback from many clients about the “games” some play. Sometimes it’s humorous, “that is outside of my basic area”, my new client was told. “What is the basic area”, they asked. Silence, was the reply! Another common deception is to “not mention” that the return delivery of the Apostille incurs an additional “trip” fee, or having a high premium for same day service. I appreciate clients meeting me at the time scheduled, but I don’t charge a dollar a minute for a short wait, as some others do. It is my standard policy to suggest a duplicate, where practical, also be notarized; an official, original, backup copy. I make no additional charge and routinely request my client to have a copy ready for me to also notarize. It takes me little extra time to process and adds value to my visit.

As a http://newyorkmobilenotarypublic.com I meet many people. The vast majority are very honest. However, most are New Yorkers’ and tend to be wary of new business relationships. They are my most favorite prospective new clients. I invite them to compare my web site with the various alternatives. Most other sites give very little, if any, information about the key person, the notary who will actually be going to you. My site gives my real name, home address, and a host of “clickable” verifiable links, to a variety of information about me. I also provide, in place of hammering, mind numbing, sales pitches; a variety of useful information. I do the same with phone calls; stopping at the point where I am being asked for “legal advice”. I am not an attorney, and not qualified, or permitted, to give legal advice.

It’s always wise to ask, very firmly, for the “bottom line”; the “what must I pay” amount. Ask if there are any additional charges whatsoever. Of course, you must describe the job accurately. I have arrived at a “just one item to notarize” and been presented 17 “copies” – to also notarize. Be aware that the majority of the mobile notary’s time is spent in transit. I might be at your location for only ten minutes, but it can take over an hour to get to you. If you make many calls and ask “How much is a Notary?”, I can almost guarantee you that the lowest response will never be what you are asked to pay. There is also the issue of quality. Quality of service can vary from the professional service with proper supplies to handle virtually any situation. Ask about a variety of forms, sizes of notary stamps, embossers, a FedEx account, an on-line credit card acceptance (to keep your credit card information secure), etc. At the other end of the scale is the disorganized amateur, with a last 2 digits of the year shaved off, worn out stamp – and who, upon their (late) arrival, will ask to borrow your pen!

That is not only rude, impolite and bad business; it’s also illegal. On my web site there is a link for Notary Laws and Procedures. At http://newyorkmobilenotarypublic.com that link leads to a direct link to the official notary law for New York State. Under Section 195 “Official Misconduct” which is defined as a “Class A Misdemeanor” it states: Notary must officiate on request.

The Penal Law (§195.00) provides that an officer before whom an oath or affidavit may be taken is bound to administer the same when requested, and a refusal to do so is a misdemeanor. 

Thus, it is illegal for a Notary Public to refuse to notarize a document when requested. There are some practical limitations to the requirement. You certainly cannot demand entrance to a private residence to see a notary; no rule requires that the notary permit you into their home. It is generally viewed as applicable to “places of public accommodation”, such as a bank, law office, or pharmacy. You probably would not be able to disrupt someone’s lunch break. But the flat out refusal because you are not a “customer” is totally improper. If you run into this situation; print out a copy of the law from my site, and remind the reticent notary that they took an oath to uphold the notary laws of New York State – and criminal penalties apply to lawbreakers.

There is a practical side to public places. You generally have to wait your turn, sometimes in a very long line. “Walk In” notaries are not always available at your convenience. Some are only available on certain days and / or times of the day. Their primary job certainly takes precedence over their secondary accommodation of providing notary services. It’s a good idea for you to find out what day / time the “walk in” notary will be available. When http://kenneth-a-edelstein.com goes to you – at the place and time that suits you best; there is absolutely no wait. In fact, generally arriving a few minutes early, I check my email while waiting for you to become available. If you arrive with a complete “loan package” and require 43 notarizations; I doubt if you would be accommodated. Even the New York County Clerk will not process a large number of notarizations for an individual – it is too disruptive to the others waiting on line for service. It’s different when you have an appointment and the notary can allocate sufficient time for your processing.

There are some gray areas related to what a notary will process. Some notaries refuse to do Powers of Attorney, or documents in a Foreign Language. Banks typically refuse both. The former, they see as an exposure of the bank to possible litigation. The latter, I can only guess, is fear of the unknown. There is no legal requirement for me to be able to read the document. I only need to be able to administer the notary oath to the person signing in English, the only language I know. It is not permitted to administer the oath via an interpreter. There are probably other “cases” – but the general law is inflexible. The notary must accommodate your request as long as it is, in the notary’s opinion lawful. That includes proper date, lack of blank spaces, proper ID, etc.

“The bank refused to notarize the document because it is written in Hungarian”

Said the exasperated client to me. “No Problem” for Kenneth A. Edelstein was my reply. There is no requirement for the notary to be able to read the document, none whatsoever. Consider a 765 page document regarding the sale of a Supertanker – do you think the notary will read it prior to notarizing the signature on the last page? Well, if they are not going to read all pages of all documents – why would they want to be able to read some pages of some documents? I doubt if I will ever know.

There are some interesting considerations regarding languages involved in the notarization process. But none have anything to do with the actual document. The main language requirements are related to the required oath given by the notary. The notary must be able to give the oath directly (no interpreter allowed) to the person whose signature will be notarized. The person signing must be able to read the document in order to swear/affirm that the document is truthful/correct. That is the relevant language consideration – the document could be in Braille or Latvian – it does not matter to me.

Part of some notaries’ refusal to handle this situation is their employer’s desire to avoid the possibility of being involved in a lawsuit. Some banks will not notarize a Power of Attorney, some refuse a Bill of Sale – the reasons are the same; avoiding being involved in litigation. If the notary can’t read any of the document it “might” be a prohibited (by “bank” policy) – thus all “unreadable” documents are often refused. At New York Mobile Notary Public that is never the case. While the notary has no requirement to read the document – if – at a glance – the document is “improper” – for example a contract to commit a crime; all notaries should refuse to notarize. However, there is NO requirement for the notary to determine that the document is lawful.

It is a “best practice” to prepare foreign language documents in both languages. Most times this is done by formatting the document into two columns with English on one side and the other language on the other. One advantage of doing this is that it allows the affiant to sign twice. The signature on the English side will be compared to their ID – the other language is not. Thus, it is the English signature that is being notarized – and most ID documents in this country have English signatures. However, I personally would accept a Chinese signature if it matched the signature on a Chinese passport and the picture of the passport holder looked like the person signing the document in front of me.

It’s a popular misconception that Notarization is a trivial process. This paper will ignore the issue of improperly processed (by the notary) notarizations, and address the issue of what it really means to have your signature notarized. I http://kenneth-a-edelstein.com will work with the assumption that the notarization is done legally and properly. Speaking only for New York State, the notary is a Commissioned and sworn officer of the New York State Department of State. That means the notary has taken a legal oath to uphold, and follow, the laws of New York in discharging their duties. It is the responsibility of the notary to be aware of, and follow changing regulations and procedures.

As an “officer of the State”, the notary administers an oath to persons whose signatures they will notarize. There are several formats, but the concept is the same – you are “under oath” to tell the truth. But what if you are not telling the truth? When I ask “Do you acknowledge that this is your signature, that you understood and willfully signed this document, and that the statements are true and accurate to the best of your knowledge and belief”, it’s an official question. A positive reply allows me to add my credentials and signature to the document. Then the document is considered to have a notarized signature.

A false statement under oath to a notary public is exactly the same as a false statement in a courtroom after being sworn by the Bailiff of the Court. It is the crime of Perjury, lying under oath. As a http://newyorkmobilenotarypublic.com I pass no judgment on the content of the document – you are the one testifying as to your belief and understanding of the document’s truthfulness. My responsibility is to verify your identity, to a reasonable extent. A well forged driver’s license will fool many Police Officers in addition to fooling a notary public.

Thus, the notarized document is a sworn statement by the affiant who signed the document. Such documents are generally permitted to be presented in a court of law – without the need for the affiant to be present to identify and testify as to having signed the document. It is the impartial notary’s signature and seal that lends validity to the signature (not the content of the document). Consider carefully your response to the notary’s question when giving you the oath. You are “going on record” by your signature, it would be difficult later to say “I did not sign that”.

I see it ever day. Shoddy “half” notarizations being done by notaries who either don’t know proper procedures or just wish to save themselves a moment of time. However, the damage such improper work can cause is hard to assess. I doubt if it’s a case of “don’t know” as all notaries in New York State are required to pass an exam to obtain their commission. You can find a copy of the notary law on my web site New York Mobile Notary Public probably worth reading if you have many documents notarized; or if your documents are important.

The most common partial notarization merely consists of the notary using their rubber stamp and signing the paper. That is NOT a notarization. To the untrained eye it looks like a notarization – but it certainly does not follow the requirements for a proper notarization. A properly notarized document has statements and signatures from BOTH you – and the notary. You need to make a statement, not just sign your name. The notary must also make a statement, in addition to signing the form.

It is also REQUIRED that the “venue” – the State and County where the notarization took place; be clearly stated on the document – usually at the top of the page (or above the notary stamp). This is one of the most frequently overlooked aspects of notarization. In addition to using the rubber stamp, the notary should emboss (use the raised seal) for any documents that might be going out of New York State. It’s a good practice for the notary to emboss every time.

The notary statement should include the date and the name of the affiant (the persons whose signature is being notarized) and the “type” of notarization service performed. Common types include the “acknowledgement” and the “sworn to and subscribed” formats. As a New York State notary, Kenneth A Edelstein is often asked to process documents that have already been notarized to obtain apostilles and certifications. That is usually when the flawed notarization is rejected – when it is examined by trained municipal employees. Sometimes the document can be easily redone – other times the holder of the document has a big problem.

Notarization is a Serious Process

It’s a popular misconception that Notarization is a trivial process. This paper will ignore the issue of improperly processed (by the notary) notarizations, and address the issue of what it really means to have your signature notarized. I http://kenneth-a-edelstein.com will work with the assumption that the notarization is done legally and properly. Speaking only for New York State, the notary is a Commissioned and sworn officer of the New York State Department of State. That means the notary has taken a legal oath to uphold, and follow, the laws of New York in discharging their duties. It is the responsibility of the notary to be aware of, and follow changing regulations and procedures.

As an “officer of the State”, the notary administers an oath to persons whose signatures they will notarize. There are several formats, but the concept is the same – you are “under oath” to tell the truth. But what if you are not telling the truth? When I ask “Do you acknowledge that this is your signature, that you understood and willfully signed this document, and that the statements are true and accurate to the best of your knowledge and belief”, it’s an official question. A positive reply allows me to add my credentials and signature to the document. Then the document is considered to have a notarized signature.

A false statement under oath to a notary public is exactly the same as a false statement in a courtroom after being sworn by the Bailiff of the Court. It is the crime of Perjury, lying under oath. As a http://newyorkmobilenotarypublic.com I pass no judgment on the content of the document – you are the one testifying as to your belief and understanding of the document’s truthfulness. My responsibility is to verify your identity, to a reasonable extent. A well forged driver’s license will fool many Police Officers in addition to fooling a notary public.

Thus, the notarized document is a sworn statement by the affiant who signed the document. Such documents are generally permitted to be presented in a court of law – without the need for the affiant to be present to identify and testify as to having signed the document. It is the impartial notary’s signature and seal that lends validity to the signature (not the content of the document). Consider carefully your response to the notary’s question when giving you the oath. You are “going on record” by your signature, it would be difficult later to say “I did not sign that”.

Double Up on your Fingerprint Submission

I do a lot of fingerprinting. Actually, I’m quite good at it having been taught the skill by one of New York City’s retired detectives. However, l ‘m not perfect – fingerprinting is not an exact science. There is always the possibility that the technician reviewing the card will find fault with it. Your best strategy is to always submit two cards, even when asked for one. Fingerprinting is a major service component at Kenneth A. Edelstein – along with notary related functions. My “kit” of fingerprinting supplies enables me to successfully process the “tough ones” with acceptance in 98% of my efforts.

My “redo or refund” guarantee is possibly unique in the field. Many offer a “redo” – with the requirement for you to travel to their distant office. It’s easy for them – time consuming and difficult for you. To reduce the possibility of rejection to the greatest extent possible; it is my practice to always prepare 2 cards for each target destination. As long as the equipment is “set up” and your fingers are inked – it’s a relatively quick procedure to process the additional card. There is another reason for the second card. You get better at being fingerprinted with the practice from doing the first card. In my experience the second card almost always has better “friction ridge” definition.

As a New York Mobile Notary Public – having fingerprinted thousands of persons; I know the importance of first time acceptance. Your license, immigration processing, or other need – is not something that you want delayed by a fingerprint card rejection. Always take the few moments necessary for the preparation of an additional card and submit both at the same time. Do not make the mistake of thinking you can “hold onto” the extra card for later use. The cards are dated when prepared and go “stale” based on various policies of the recipient of the cards.

The images are placed with great care after proper finger preparation. However, it is your responsibility to properly complete the card. Fingerprint cards must be completed using black ink and the name area requires the full middle name (if any) not just an initial. I can guarantee the quality of the actual fingerprints; but cannot be responsible for illegible handwriting used when filling in the detailed information required. Neat, clear, block letters is what works best – something that many are not used to doing. If they cannot read a portion of the card with certainty – it will surely be rejected for illegible handwriting. Lastly, many recipients send out cards with some preprinting or bar coding. An extra card (supplied by me) can always be bar coded, or stamped by the receiving agency; if that is the card they prefer to process.

Why you need an Expert Notary

Think about it, there is practically no service or product that cannot be produced more cheaply, and be offered at a lower price. We all want to monitor our expenses. But sometimes a small savings initially, can result in a large penalty later down the road. I am a professional with the skills and equipment required to process properly, the first time, any situation. A significant part of my work as a New York Mobile Notary Public involves fixing the mistakes of others. Sometimes the mistake is by the notary, other times my client followed the wrong path. The perception of the notarization process is that it is simple and standardized; that is wrong.

Perhaps the worst possible situations are when the notarization is not valid, and the document falls; because it requires notarization. Almost as bad: is when the improper notarization is part of a chain of events, and the next step cannot be accomplished. To the untrained eye, the appearance of a notary stamp and signature – is a notarization. That is not the case, there are several other required components required to make a valid notarization. It seems OK, until a trained eye spots the defect – in a courtroom, at a municipal office, or by an opposing attorney.

On my web site, Kenneth A. Edelstein I describe the necessary components for a proper notarization. The most common faulty notarization is when there is not a prewritten notary section; and the notary only stamps and signs – omitting several state requirements. Even a perfectly executed notarization may be useless. There are many documents which require a far different process – then you signing; and having your signature notarized. One example is the very tightly regulated procedures for the processing of educational documents. In New York State, your signature cannot certify a copy of a transcript, degree, or diploma. The proper procedure is for the notary to verify the Registrar’s letter; on school stationary – which describes the document in detail.

There are many special cases, in addition to educational documents. Wills, Civil Affidavits; Birth, Death & Marriage Certificates – all require knowledge of proper notary procedures. The procedures are not especially complex or hard to follow. It’s just that when notarization is done as a sideline to a person’s main profession – they tend to not keep up with changing requirements. One client told me they reserve me for their important documents, and take the trivial documents to the notary at the bank. I often wonder how this person determines the trivial from the important. Generally, if it requires notarization – it’s probably important that it be processed correctly – the first time.